15:39:04 From Pier Luigi Buttigieg (Helmholtz Data Federation) : Hi all - I'm just dropping in to say hi - I'm in a Helmholtz Environmental Metadata meeting, have a bit of a break 15:40:03 From Øystein Godøy : Hello Pier Luigi, nico combination of meetings then :-) 15:42:36 From Pier Luigi Buttigieg (Helmholtz Data Federation) : @Øystein: yes! steadily nudging things towards a workable consensus. Big machines though : ) 15:44:04 From Øystein Godøy : @pierluigi, is the Helmholtz approach linked to national or european approaches? Or still in discussion? 15:46:22 From Øystein Godøy : away from desk a couple of minutes... 15:46:41 From Pier Luigi Buttigieg (Helmholtz Data Federation) : @Øystein: We just started this group as part of Helmholtz's Data Federation drive: https://www.helmholtz.de/en/research/information-data-science/helmholtz-data-federation-hdf/ However, breaking content out of silos inside the federation and changing the culture to "interoperability first" is a goal of ours. I'll be doing what I can to get things linked to the Polar Semantics group on the ontology side 15:52:19 From Øystein Godøy : @pierluigi, looks interesting. What is the context? datasets only or projects, sites etc as well? 15:53:11 From Øystein Godøy : and nice acronym :-) 15:54:34 From Pier Luigi Buttigieg (Helmholtz Data Federation) : Briefing on ESIP's emerging Federation of Semantic Resources for Earth and Environment (SeREEn; name to be confirmed): - Multiple groups have created resources across the semantic ladder (vocabs, glossaries, thesauri, ontologies) in the Earth and Environment domain - Most of these are intended to be interoperability tech, but they do not - themselves - interoperate with anything. - SeREEn will federate these efforts (as well as services built on them), allowing diversity of approaches, but strongly promoting *demonstrated* and high-quality cross-resource interoperability - This builds on the work that ESIP's Semantic Harmonization Cluster has done on mapping Cryospheric SWEET and ENVO terms through expert review of GCW and associated glossaries (Ruth Duerr, Gary Berg-Cross, PL Buttigieg) - a very good starting point for semantic interoperability work in this group perhaps? 15:56:01 From Pier Luigi Buttigieg (Helmholtz Data Federation) : There will be a number of semantics sessions at July's ESIP meeting 15:59:25 From Pier Luigi Buttigieg (Helmholtz Data Federation) : @Øystein "What is the context? datasets only or projects, sites etc as well?" Many dimensions, including all data holdings, programmes, institutes, infrastructures, new projects, incubator projects, etc. Quite far reaching, but there's a lot of diplomacy and internal treaty building to be done : ) 15:59:34 From Jay Pearlman : what is the link to the agenda for this meeting? 15:59:57 From Marco Alba : https://arcticdc.org/meetings/conference-calls-webinars/polar-to-global-online-interoperability-and-data-sharing-workshop-hackathon 16:11:46 From Evgeny Zarov : Hi, everyone! 16:36:52 From 1 - William Manley : there’s a hand up 16:39:54 From 2 - Pier Luigi Buttigieg (Helmholtz Data Federation) : Also, one has to get used to patchier data and metadata as access is hard at the Poles 16:40:53 From 1. Adrienne Canino : Definitely, thanks! 16:41:05 From Yaxing : I’m interested in WG 1: Federated Search 17:05:48 From 3. Peter Pulsifer : I have a question / comment 17:56:36 From 3. Helen Peat : Reference to paper on citation advantage of having link to available data in papers: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0230416 18:01:25 From 3. Tatiana Minayeva : Its also connected to so called community based monitoring or citizen science. The communities are worrying about the intellectual property and ownership rights 18:03:29 From 3. Jan Rene Larsen : The Arctic Council "Agreement on Enhancing International Arctic Scientific Cooperation" should also be referenced. There is a data section, mainly based on the GEO principles: https://oaarchive.arctic-council.org/bitstream/handle/11374/1916/EDOCS-4288-v2-ACMMUS10_FAIRBANKS_2017_Agreement_on_Enhancing_International_Arctic_Scientific_Cooperation.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y 18:18:07 From 3 Darek_Ignatiuk : https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/en/publication/jrc-data-policy 18:33:41 From 3. Sanna Djurhuus : Would you consider making a differentiation in your spreadsheet about specifically Arctic data? As power differentials are a hugely important factor for Arctic data, and it would be a shame to be considered "non-essential" merely on the basis that the Arctic and the Antarctic differ with regards to human inhabitants. 18:35:42 From 3. Tatiana Minayeva : too general and overlaping 18:36:17 From 3. Peter Pulsifer : agree. Needs discussion 18:37:06 From 3. Tatiana Minayeva : but again already covered before 18:45:28 From 3. Peter Pulsifer to 3. Stein(Privately) : @Stein, I will take the liberty of saying that Maribeth Murray and I will work to identify a member of the CCADI team to contribute. 18:47:21 From 3. Tatiana Minayeva : Quality!!! 18:48:05 From 3. Tatiana Minayeva : verification of quality is crucial 18:48:06 From 3. Peter Pulsifer : Preservation question is complex - quality as indicated, relevance etc. 18:50:19 From Maribeth Murray : I like the matrix idea. 18:50:45 From 3. Tatiana Minayeva : yes matrix is great… my writing is horrible 18:50:57 From 3. Jen Thomas SPI : Happy to help where I can 18:51:45 From 3. Sanna Djurhuus : May the rest of us receive the revised document? 18:53:01 From 3. Tatiana Minayeva : great job, very comprehensive document...that is why so few comments 18:53:20 From 3. Sanna Djurhuus : So you will be working in and updating the same spreadsheet we were using today? 18:53:27 From 3. Helen Peat : thank-you for your chairing Stein 18:53:41 From Maribeth Murray : Thanks very much. This is a lot of information and very useful; 18:54:01 From 3 Darek_Ignatiuk : Thank you, bye. 18:54:48 From 3. Buenning, Hartwig : Thanx a lot and bye